My beginning was doing a vocal piece, spoken and sung, with the Primitive Art Group in a performance they did at Rawa House, which still survives and is in upper Cuba Street. There was a space two floors up which was run by the Orange People which was a group set up by a guru, his name’s something like Bagwan Rajneesh. Eventually he was convicted for fraud and various misdemeanors by the United States Government which really doesn’t say anything necessarily about his guilt. But the Orange People, it was like a libertarian, hippie, Hindu combination, hedonism but with Hindu spirituality thrown in. They had this space set up, a restaurant with vegetarian food and this great space. That was my first experience of actually performing with the Primitive Art Group. They did some great performances up there and also there were these two guys that were really good at dancing, which I was also doing, so it was really fun because at that time there was nothing else like that in the sense of a kind of freedom and totally going into a void.